Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? Bear and Elk Hunting Forum. Where did the notion of "once a spike, always a spike" come from? Once a Spike, Always a Spike Posted by Shepherd88 on 3/16/15 at 9:44 am. I'm on several hunting pages on Facebook and now that most of the bucks are done growing I'm seeing more and more posts about if they need to cull big spikes. New Members . 12/9/14 @ 5:09 PM. Really? He asked what I had been seeing and I mentioned I had seen about 3 spikes. True or false? Welcome! Archery Hunting. Once a Spike Always a Spike? So before I start smoking spikes, I’m focusing my efforts on running down the number of mouths my environment has to support. LINK This photographer was able to follow the journey of this buck throughout his life and show his growth over the years. Not always but if they do not catch up that would or is a rarity. Some think that once a spike, always a spike. I have been told that a spike is a sign of poor genetics and that the formulation of antlers will not change over that deer's life. I have heard old timers ask us to shoot the spikes off of their property while hunting as to remove the small bucks from their gene pool on their land. In the latest issue of Deer and Deer Hunting they had a pic of the same buck for 12 years. He was able to get photos of one buck with every rack he ever wore starting with his spikes. That is, one side looks pretty much like the other. I saw that article also. Once a Spike, Always a Spike: It's Deer Hunting's Big Myth Can someone answer that question for me from the biology standpoint? Discussion in 'Crossbow Hunting Room' started by warthog67, Nov 6, 2008. warthog67 Guest. Some spikes are just late born fawns from the previous year, usually birthed by yearlings, conceived during the second or third rut. I was talking to a friend the other day about how our seasons were going. Metroplex. Jan 20, 2007 #6. Posts: 47,284. 0 0. Forum Rules, Suggestions, Troubleshooting. Twitter. In the individual ,or the habitat. White-tailed deer tend to grow antlers that are fairly well-balanced. "Yeah, but once a spike, always a spike," he said. ORIGINAL POST. of late. your own Pins on Pinterest The Product Owner allocates a little bit of the team’s capacity now, ahead of when the story needs to be delivered, so that when the story comes into the sprint, the team knows what to do. Messages: 112 Likes Received: 6. Twitter. I have heard that, but I was just wondering if it is true. “A lot of people believe that a spike will have a spike rack throughout its life, but the research says that’s simply not true. Big Game Hunting. Some spikes are genetically inferior but even those don't necessarily remain spikes in following years. Sponsors . Last year we got a pic of this spike still in velvet around October 10 (date on the pic is wrong). The answer to that is CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY" NO! By huntadmin - October 27, 2016. Antler size has more to do with stress levels and nutrition in the 1st 2 years than it does with genetics. [Re: Leonardo] #6390739 08/01/16 09:48 PM: Joined: Apr 2007. Herd density, quality of habitat, amount of rain, mast conditions the previous year, is the doe mother a yearling with her first fawn. spikes; Uncategorized; Once a Spike, Always a Spike: Deer Hunting’s Big Myth. I'm not a believer in "Once a spike, ALWAYS a spike" but in this case it might be true. Macy, thank you for answering these critical questions we hunters face every season. I have posted a link to an article. It just can't be blamed on poor genetics. Back to top. Posts: 48,623. It will interesting in seeing what he is next year. On deer farms, they get young buck spikes, even with a 180 class father. So my dad wants venison on the table and my last 3 times out i could have shot these 3 different spikes and i keep passing because i NEVER shoot small bucks, but my dad said once a spike, always a spike and then i just saw a post where a guy shot a spike and he said that same spike … The pedicles provide the structural base for the future development of antlers. There is always some different factors, but for the most part, it is caused by a lack of nutrition. White-tailed deer tend to grow antlers that are fairly well-balanced. Everything Deer. “The ‘once a spike, always a spike’ maxim should be dead, but unfortunately it’s not,” said Lindsay Thomas of the Quality Deer Management Association. Let me know what Yall think! 801. Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? Discover (and save!) Unicoidawg Moderator. 669. Facebook. Or expected to throw spikes the following year. Turkey Hunting. This article may have been shared before here so forgive me if it has. Most always they do catch up, so if they do not they are the exception not the rule. Field Gear and Gadgets . RE: once a spike always a spike? The spikes that show up on your land likely wasn't born on your land, they probably came from a few miles away when their doe mother pushed them away. "Why didn't you shoot them"? I told him that as part of our management program there are regulations on the antler size of bucks that you can take. “Once a spike, always a spike.” Hardly. Article from deeranddeerhunting.com. They may, on average, grow smaller antlers (debatable) but most of them will become at least branch antlered bucks if allowed to live. James Kroll did this study back in the late 80's by taking a spike that was captured, and let him grow for the next 5 years. A friend of mine emailed it to me and I thought it was very well done. Well I may have mispoken a bit in my first post...nothing is "proven" to be set in stone fact. Jan 20, 2007 #5. New Hunters and Need Help with the Hunt. How can listeners get in touch with you to learn about your wildlife services? But if you see a Spike on a 5.5 or 6.5 year old body, more than likely he may always be a Spike? Once a spike not always a spike....I'll try and find the issue and post it.... Unicoidawg Click to expand... i hope you can find the issue,love to read it.thanks . Spikes are almost always young bucks wearing their first set of antlers. [Re: Leonardo] #6390739 08/01/16 09:48 PM: Joined: Apr 2007. Tools of the Trade . But the OP's question was: "once a spike ALWAYS as spike, T or F??" Oct 5, 2017 - This Pin was discovered by Linda Alcorn. I have killed 2 spikes this year, both are mature deer (3-4 year). Charles Alsheimer did a very interesting piece on a very unique piece of ground in upstate New York. Rules and Announcements. Anyone have any idea? SHARE. It was once commonly believed that, “Once a spike, always a spike.” But research indicates that this isn’t necessarily true. Yes , the odd buck will be a spike more than once , but are not common unless something is really way out of whack. SHARE. Once a Spike, always a Spike. Others say that a spike is your 1st year buck/bull then the next year a fork, then so on..and so on...continuing to a trophy racked animal. They may, on average, grow smaller antlers (debatable) but most of them will become at least branch antlered bucks if allowed to live. By huntadmin - October 18, 2017. ok what has people thinking that a spike is once a spike and always will be a spike or small buck if you belive it its not true Noted deer authority Charles Alzheimer once raised a spike on his N.Y. farm at six years old it was a Massive twelve pointer! Hope that's not the case cause I have around 15 small bucks on my place that go from a 1 point, to a spike, 3 point, and several 4 points with a lot of junk on them. From there, Buffy conducted her relationship with Spike—which was mostly sexual, at first—in secret. Don't know of such a regular occurrence around Mi. He asked. 6. It was a spike for the first picture and grew into a 170 class buck. Log into your account. This poor and somewhat embarrassing photo dug out of my ancient archives supports the point of this column. Once a Spike, Always a Spike: It's Deer Hunting's Big Myth. Everybody has heard the old line,”once a spike, always a spike.” It’s been proven time and time again to be a myth but some things die hard. 0. Let's get this debate started! NOYDB BANNED. That is, one side looks pretty much like the other. A spike as an investment the Product Owner makes to figure out what needs to be built and how the team is going to build it — in advance of actually building it. Inlines & Percussions Talk . Can culling bucks with a spike on one side "get them out of the gene pool" or is this just one of deer hunting's long-held and untrue myths? Back when a hunter’s only question was “Does he have horns,” we filled lots of tags with spikes … Jan 20, 2007 #6. The answer to that is CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY" NO! 0. your username. Flintlock talk. It's anyone's guess why that upsurd or ridiculous rumor started (once a spike always a spike). spikes; Uncategorized; Once a Spike, Always a Spike: Deer Hunting’s Big Myth. your password Article by Deer & Deer Hunting. True or false? Buffy's relationship with Spike began gradually in Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, but didn't culminate in anything substantial until season 6, when the two shared a kiss after the acclaimed musical episode, "Once More With Feeling". This year he is almost exactly the same. we have a 3 point rule state wide, so it's not even legal to kill them anyways. SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE ADD TO FAV ORTIES. 99% of them are 1-2 1/2 year old bucks with 12+ inches of antler growth. Hunters are better informed these days but there is still a lot of misunderstanding about spike bucks. A focus on Quality … Ammo … There's so many factors that determine why a spike is a spike. I have seen it 1st hand on the deer farm at LSU. Once a spike always a spike? I ask because we have a goofy buck … Great Article. It is old school mentality that a spike will always be a spike, just like you should NEVER kill a doe. Jan 20, 2007 #5. Yearling spikes are not a concern. General Board. ive heard over the years once a spike always a spike. 46 members in the QDM community. But the OP's question was: "once a spike ALWAYS as spike, T or F??" It’s easy to say “Once a spike, always a spike,” but people who live and breathe this stuff will tell you, it’s not quite that simple when deciding whether to cull spikes off your hunting property. 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